Johan Santana - First Round Blunder?

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:11 pm

I am curious to see the rosters of the other teams that drafted Johan Santana in the first round. The big question with drafting Santana -- unquestionably the best pitcher in the draft -- is whether you can properly fill out the other areas of your team. Here's how my team looked after taking Santana at pick #5:

SP Johan Santana 1.05

SP Jeremy Bonderman 6.11

SP Freddy Garcia 15.05

SP Kevin Millwood 19.05

SP Boof Bonser 21.05

SP Kei Igawa 22.11

SP Jeremy Sowers 23.05

SP Cliff Lee 28.11

RP Jose Valverde 9.05

RP Salomon Torres 12.11

RP Todd Coffey 25.05

RP Kerry Wood 26.11

RP Mike MacDougal 29.05

RP Jon Lester 30.11

C Jason Varitek 16.11

C David Ross 18.11

1B Derrek Lee 2.11

1B Prince Fielder 4.11

2B Josh Barfield 8.11

2B Kelly Johnson 20.11

3B Edwin Encarnacion 11.05

SS Rafael Furcal 3.05

SS Yuniesky Betancourt 24.11

OF Adam Dunn 5.05

OF Nick Swisher 7.05

OF Chris Young 10.11

OF Raul Ibanez 13.05

OF Carlos Quentin 14.11

OF Shane Victorino 17.05

OF Shawn Green 27.05

Now the big question: did I get enough offense to justify taking Johan Santana with my first pick?

[ March 17, 2007, 08:18 PM: Message edited by: King of Queens ]

The Mighty Men · Post by **The Mighty Men** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:15 pm

See my post on the "first to post" topic. I took Santana also.

Nice team. You still managed alot of power. I also like Sowers in round 23.

ALL-IN JD · Post by **ALL-IN JD** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:16 pm

Glen, love some of your upside guys on offense. I think that BA and steals could be a problem. I think that Garcia, Millwood and Igawa could take away a little from Santana's dominance, but if Igawa come through, pitching could be very, very solid.

billywaz · Post by **billywaz** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:31 pm

I'm a total newbie Glenn, but I think you did well, and I think your steals will be just fine. Your BA will suffer with Dunn and Swisher, but your paying them to trot around the bases.

I love Bonderman, but if Santana SOMEHOW struggled this year, the pithcing staff could be shaky.

Nice overall job!

edelman24 · Post by **edelman24** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:44 pm

I thought I got a steal with Raul Ibanez at the end of the 10th, then I see you got him in the 13th great value pick there...

Hangtown · Post by **Hangtown** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:01 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:

I am curious to see the rosters of the other teams that drafted Johan Santana in the first round.

Now the big question: did I get enough offense to justify taking Johan Santana with my first pick? Santana went 2.06 in LV 8... go figure? Howard fell to them in the 1st.

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:03 pm

Originally posted by Hangtown:

quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:

I am curious to see the rosters of the other teams that drafted Johan Santana in the first round.

Now the big question: did I get enough offense to justify taking Johan Santana with my first pick? Santana went 2.06 in LV 8... go figure? Howard fell to them in the 1st. [/QUOTE]Howard 1.10 and Santana 2.06?

Hangtown · Post by **Hangtown** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:09 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:

quote:Originally posted by Hangtown:

quote:Originally posted by King of Queens:

I am curious to see the rosters of the other teams that drafted Johan Santana in the first round.

Now the big question: did I get enough offense to justify taking Johan Santana with my first pick? Santana went 2.06 in LV 8... go figure? Howard fell to them in the 1st. [/QUOTE]Howard 1.10 and Santana 2.06?

[/QUOTE]Yup, pitchers went late, I got Zambrano at 4.04.

poopy tooth · Post by **poopy tooth** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:10 pm

Howard 1.10 and Santana 2.06? That's even better than Pujols at 3!

edelman24 · Post by **edelman24** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:10 pm

and I thought seeing Albert PUjols go # 3 in a league was shocking

Hangtown · Post by **Hangtown** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:14 pm

Originally posted by poopy tooth:

quote:Howard 1.10 and Santana 2.06? That's even better than Pujols at 3! [/QUOTE]Who went 1 and 2?

edelman24 · Post by **edelman24** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:15 pm

Soriano 1 then Reyes 2 I believe...

[ March 17, 2007, 09:16 PM: Message edited by: edelman24 ]

baggler · Post by **baggler** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:16 pm

Soriano Reyes

MGBMARTY · Post by **MGBMARTY** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:33 pm

Plenty of power King to go with Santana Solid team Average and speed might be low Price you pay for Adam Dunn. Like the Po of the 2 D Backs Heres my team for perusal.

1b Konerko

2b Kinsler

SS H Ramirez

3b A-Rod

CI M Lowell

MI J Lopez/JJ Hardy

OF D Young

OF C Duffy

OF C Monroe

OF A Kearns

OF S Sosa/ W Pena/S Stewart

DH Thome

SP Felix

SP Kazmir

SP Zito

SP A Reyes

SP J Westbrook

SP N Lowry

SP C Villanueva

CL BJ Ryan

CL Gagne

CL Weathers

RP J Julio

RP H Owens

RP C Orvella

Marty

Chest Rockwell · Post by **Chest Rockwell** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:40 pm

Originally posted by MGBMARTY:

Plenty of power King to go with Santana Solid team Average and speed might be low Price you pay for Adam Dunn. Like the Po of the 2 D Backs Heres my team for perusal.

1b Konerko

2b Kinsler

SS H Ramirez

3b A-Rod

CI M Lowell

MI J Lopez/JJ Hardy

OF D Young

OF C Duffy

OF C Monroe

OF A Kearns

OF S Sosa/ W Pena/S Stewart

DH Thome

SP Felix

SP Kazmir

SP Zito

SP A Reyes

SP J Westbrook

SP N Lowry

SP C Villanueva

CL BJ Ryan

CL Gagne

CL Weathers

RP J Julio

RP H Owens

RP C Orvella

Marty Marty sure that outfield could be better, but a very, very good team IMO

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:44 pm

Chest where's your team???

MGBMARTY · Post by **MGBMARTY** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:49 pm

Chest your right about the outfield Kearns and Monroe still good for 20-24 hrs When they pitch around Zimmerman Kearns might be ok for RBIS Had to take a shot with Sosa in Texas might bat 5th took him in 21st

Marty

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:55 pm

Originally posted by King of Queens:

3B Edwin Encarnacion 11.05

BAD King!

Q

baggler · Post by **baggler** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:15 pm

Drafted from the 8th spot ( NY League 6)

C-Jason Varitek RD17.(248)

C-Ronnie Paulino RD 18.(263)

1B-Nick Swisher(OF) RD 5.(68)

2B-Julio Lugo(SS) RD 6.(83)

SS-Orlando Cabrera RD9.(128)

3B-Joe Crede RD12.(173)

MI-Bobby Crosby RD 25.(368)

CI-Eric Chavez RD14.(203)

OF-Vlad Guerrero RD 1.(8)

OF-Carlo N. Lee RD 2.(23)

OF-Magglio Ordonez RD 8.(113)

OF-Chris Duncan RD 15.(218)

OF-Scott Posednik RD 11.(158)

U-Jay Payton RD 22.(323)

P-Carlos Zambrano RD 3 (38)

P-John Lackey RD 7.(98)

P-Josh Beckett RD 10 (143)

P-Joe Blanton RD 21(308)

P-Ted Lilly RD 16 (233)

P-Ricky Nolasco RD 23 (338)

P-Joel Zumaya RD 13 (188)

P-Todd Coffey RD 20 (293)

P-Mariano Rivera RD 4 (53)

Res-Andy Marte RD 26.(383)

Res-Aaron Hill(2b,SS) RD19 (278)

Res-Pedro Martinez RD 24 (353)

Res-Homer Bailey RD 28 (413)

Res-Carlos Villanueva RD 27 (398)

Res-Matt Morris RD 29 (428)

Res-Kyle Farnsworth RD 30 (443)

I know a little short on the saves side and coulda done a little better with the avg..but whadya think ?

baggler · Post by **baggler** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:19 pm

My apologies posted on the wrong thread..but appreciate any feedback anyhow..thanks....

Sebadiah23 · Post by **Sebadiah23** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:38 pm

Swisher seems to be a reach in the 5th round, not that he's a bad player but why that early. Ok team in general though.

Does anyone know how long it takes for them to upload the rosters into the system?

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:40 pm

Originally posted by Sebadiah23:

Does anyone know how long it takes for them to upload the rosters into the system? Usually they get the rosters loaded during the week, usually by the Friday following the event.

Sebadiah23 · Post by **Sebadiah23** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:50 pm

Thanks King of Queens, you were very nice guy at the draft. Good luck this year.

Spyhunter · Post by **Spyhunter** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:12 am

Hey there KoQ. Nice to meet you. It was great sitting near you, except the 4 times you took the guy coming that we wanted I couldn't believe it. I am sorry I didn't get a chance to say hello to Quahog at the draft.

Anyway, RT and I were the lucky ones who got Pujolis at #3. Here is the main team from that draft. The obvious whole is the lack of a 2nd closer

but pitching went fast and furious in our league, and we weren't willing to pay the price on offense to secure a mediocre 2nd starter. FAAB or bust for us on that.

P Ryan, B.J.

P Wang, Chien-Ming

P Capuano, Chris

P Papelbon, Jon

P Beckett, Josh

P Bush, David

P Prior, Mark

P Davis, Doug

P Gonzalez, Mike

P Duke, Zach

C Navarro, Dioner

C Schneider, Brian

1B Pujols, Albert

2B Phillips, Brandon

3B Glaus, Troy

SS Eckstein, David

1B/3B Crede, Joe

2B/SS Cantu, Jorge

OF Wells, Vernon

OF Abreu, Bob

OF Matsui, Hideki

OF Rowand, Aaron

OF Podsednik, Scott

UTIL Gomes, Jonny

Some of the bench: Guillen, Jose / Wily Mo Pena / Jeff Baker

Our mistakes were pretty clear after the draft: Phillips in the 6th was a bit of a reach. Gordon Gekko managed to get him in the 11th!!! As previously mentioned, lack of a 2nd closer.

Anyway, a good time, and good job to everyone

Regards,

Spyhunter

Quahogs · Post by **Quahogs** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:07 pm

Originally posted by Spyhunter:

Hey there KoQ. Nice to meet you. It was great sitting near you, except the 4 times you took the guy coming that we wanted I couldn't believe it. I am sorry I didn't get a chance to say hello to Quahog at the draft.

Anyway, RT and I were the lucky ones who got Pujolis at #3. Here is the main team from that draft. The obvious whole is the lack of a 2nd closer

but pitching went fast and furious in our league, and we weren't willing to pay the price on offense to secure a mediocre 2nd starter. FAAB or bust for us on that.

P Ryan, B.J.

P Wang, Chien-Ming

P Capuano, Chris

P Papelbon, Jon

P Beckett, Josh

P Bush, David

P Prior, Mark

P Davis, Doug

P Gonzalez, Mike

P Duke, Zach

C Navarro, Dioner

C Schneider, Brian

1B Pujols, Albert

2B Phillips, Brandon

3B Glaus, Troy

SS Eckstein, David

1B/3B Crede, Joe

2B/SS Cantu, Jorge

OF Wells, Vernon

OF Abreu, Bob

OF Matsui, Hideki

OF Rowand, Aaron

OF Podsednik, Scott

UTIL Gomes, Jonny

Some of the bench: Guillen, Jose / Wily Mo Pena / Jeff Baker

Our mistakes were pretty clear after the draft: Phillips in the 6th was a bit of a reach. Gordon Gekko managed to get him in the 11th!!! As previously mentioned, lack of a 2nd closer.

Anyway, a good time, and good job to everyone

Regards,

Spyhunter Spy, I talked to your partner since I didnt know who was who. Crazy day, never could get back over there. Best of luck this season !

Q