Thoughts on Satellite League last night

chartythechamp · Post by **chartythechamp** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:27 am

C Ivan Rodriguez WAS R18 P6 Comment

C Gregg Zaun MIL R27 P10 Comment

1B Miguel Cabrera DET R1 P10 Comment

2B Ian Kinsler TEX R2 P6 Comment

SS Alcides Escobar MIL R13 P10 Comment

SS Ryan Theriot CHC R15 P10 Comment

3B Michael Young TEX R8 P6 Comment

3B Casey Blake LA R19 P10 Comment

OF Ichiro Suzuki SEA R3 P10 Comment

OF Jason Bay NYM R4 P6 Comment

OF Raul Ibanez PHI R9 P10 Comment

OF Nick Swisher NYY R17 P10 Comment

OF Cameron Maybin FLA R20 P6 Comment

OF Matt LaPorta CLE R21 P10 Comment

OF Melky Cabrera ATL R25 P10 Comment

OF Eugenio Velez SF R30 P6 Comment

DH Vladimir Guerrero TEX R12 P6 Comment

SP Cliff Lee SEA R5 P10 Comment

SP Tommy Hanson ATL R6 P6 Comment

SP Jered Weaver ANA R10 P6 Comment

SP David Price TB R11 P10 Comment

SP Ben Sheets OAK R16 P6 Comment

SP Zach Duke PIT R22 P6 Comment

SP Nick Blackburn MIN R24 P6 Comment

SP Manny Parra MIL R26 P6 Comment

SP Brad Penny STL R28 P6 Comment

SP Chien-Ming Wang WAS R29 P10 Comment

RP Mariano Rivera NYY R7 P10 Comment

RP Matt Capps WAS R14 P6 Comment

RP Matt Thornton CHW R23 P10

This is the squad I managed to get last night in pay top 3 satellite. Last year I did 2 satellites and this was my third nfbc draft ever. I am newer to nfbc and would like anyones thoughts.

thanks

King of Queens · Post by **King of Queens** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:31 am

Pretty solid squad there, Mr. Chart.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:38 am

solid, but light in HR, missing quality backend SP

Schwks · Post by **Schwks** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:54 am

I think that the HRs are not that far off. THose two catchers are tough though...thre is punting a position and then there is punting a position. And getting a viable one in season is very hard, IMO. I dont mind that strategy, but I think you need to do a bit better. The rest of the offense looks well thought out. The SP needs help on back end, but that is more easily fixed.

I love these posts...havent seen enough of them this year.

Schwks · Post by **Schwks** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:03 am

Gekko,

Not trying to be argumentative here, utilizing realistic projections for each player drafted, is it possible to walk away from a draft having numbers that equate to the 80th percentile in every category? I think if you are in a reasonably solid draft AND you are modest with your projections...I dont really thinks so. But perhaps I am wrong.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:06 am

Originally posted by Schwks:

Gekko,

Not trying to be argumentative here, utilizing realistic projections for each player drafted, is it possible to walk away from a draft having numbers that equate to the 80th percentile in every category? I think if you are in a reasonably solid draft AND you are modest with your projections...I dont really thinks so. But perhaps I am wrong. GREAT question. it is very hard to do it in EVERY category. personally i don't project my pitching categories because double starts come into play. but on offense, can i hit my marks in every category, absolutely. now, can i do it without killing my pitching? not sure

chartythechamp · Post by **chartythechamp** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:07 am

thanks for the comments I know I really punted catchers every time I was going to pick one I like I got sniped of him. I think that my line up is great though and could make up for that. The one thing that scares me is my back end starters I need sheets and price to have good years. Thanks for the comments keep them coming

Schwks · Post by **Schwks** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:19 am

Nathan, I thought that the offense looked well thought out, but not off of the charts great. It doesnt seem good enough to counter what I envision out of two catchers well past their prime (and one who was not really good in his prime)and a middlin, non-upside, pitching staff. Id project middle of the pack overall...of course a couple of good pick ups, who knows.

ash · Post by **ash** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:26 am

I feel I have a better well rounded team- what does everyone else think?

Final Roster

Pos Name Team Pick

C Kurt Suzuki OAK R9 P7

C Jeff Clement PIT R14 P9

C Tyler Flowers CHW R30 P9

1B Prince Fielder MIL R1 P7

1B Nick Johnson NYY R18 P9

1B Chris Carter OAK R25 P7

1B Gaby Sanchez FLA R28 P9

2B Orlando Hudson MIN R22 P9

2B Luis Castillo NYM R27 P7

SS Miguel Tejada BAL R10 P9

SS Tommy Manzella HOU R29 P7

3B Ryan Zimmerman WAS R3 P

3B Gordon Beckham CHW R5 P7

OF Grady Sizemore CLE R2 P9

OF Carlos Quentin CHW R7 P7

OF Carlos Gonzalez COL R8 P9

OF Dexter Fowler COL R15 P7

OF Austin Jackson DET R19 P7

DH Ken Griffey SEA R24 P9

SP Adam Wainwright STL R4 P9

SP Neftali Feliz TEX R12 P9

SP Daisuke Matsuzaka BOS R13 P7

SP Erik Bedard SEA R16 P9

SP Jeff Niemann TB R17 P7

SP Madison Bumgarner SF R20 P9

SP Ricky Romero TOR R21 P7

SP Justin Duchscherer OAK R23 P7

SP Bud Norris HOU R26 P9

RP Jonathan Papelbon BOS R6 P9

RP Ryan Franklin STL R11 P7

Schwks · Post by **Schwks** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:27 am

Gekko, That is why I think it is hard to say to someone: "You look short on HR" To go through a draft, and count HRs is really not really accurate critique. If you are a bit light on power but have two solid closer 1 1/2 solid Cs, good base of sps with some potential comers at back end, then it is really not that light on power. Why because you may be 3040 HRs short of goal, but maybe just one pickup away.

We have all tried to figure out this Rubik's cube...no mattter how you turn the sides, the end result of a draft doesnt yield each side being uniform in color. So each category, Iwould argue, needs to be viewed in context with the others.

Schwks · Post by **Schwks** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:30 am

Ash, Is it me or your sp Wainwright and 6 question marks?

chartythechamp · Post by **chartythechamp** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:33 am

ash only time will tell I believe my offense just as good as yours and your SP's are not good

EliGrimmett · Post by **EliGrimmett** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:46 am

I, too, was in this draft and I also haven't seen very many of these rate your team threads this year so I'll throw my team into the pool for critiques and comments.

1B Lance Berkman

1B Adam LaRoche

1B Russ Branyan

2B Clint Barmes

3B Scott Rolen

3B Brandon Inge

SS Jason Bartlett

SS Marco Scutaro

C Joe Mauer

C Matt Wieters

OF Justin Upton

OF Adam Lind

OF Rajai Davis

OF Franklin Gutierrez

OF Cody Ross

OF Michael Brantley

SP Johan Santana

SP Wandy Rodriguez

SP Ryan Dempster

SP Hiroki Kuroda

SP Joe Blanton

SP Wade Davis

SP Scott Feldman

SP Marc Rzepczynski

SP Jake Westbrook

SP Dallas Braden

SP Charlie Morton

SP Joe Saunders

RP Billy Wagner

RP Octavio Dotel

One thing to note about this draft and maybe a lesson to all involved in these events: Make sure everyone involved in your draft is on the same page before the draft begins!!! My Dad and I and a buddy were all trying to decide who to pick throughout the draft and, as it never fails, we all had different opinions at different points in the draft and it was very frustrating. I wanted closers, my Dad wanted to punt SV's, our buddy wanted top flight catchers, I wanted middle tier guys, etc...

Joe Sambito · Post by **Joe Sambito** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:48 am

Ash, I didn't think Clement was C eigible?

Both staffs need some help, ash's more than charts.

I probably like Chart's team better. I agree with the well thought out. There are some specific players I wouldn't have chosen but definitely a decent thought process.

Ash may have a bit more offensive depth.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:48 am

Originally posted by Schwks:

Gekko, That is why I think it is hard to say to someone: "You look short on HR" To go through a draft, and count HRs is really not really accurate critique. eyeball test says 230-240 hr. sure he can pick someone up on waivers, but he will also need to deal with injuries.

Highrollers · Post by **Highrollers** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:49 am

Here is one more from the same draft

Catchers bad, light on power, good on stolen bases and AVG. Strong pitching...what does everyone think?

Final Roster

Pos Name Team Pick

C Buster Posey SF R17 P2

C Jarrod Saltalamacchia TEX R21 P2

C Adam Moore SEA R28 P14

1B Todd Helton COL R16 P14

2B Brian Roberts BAL R4 P14

SS Hanley Ramirez FLA R1 P2

SS Asdrubal Cabrera CLE R8 P14

3B Pablo Sandoval SF R3 P2

3B Adrian Beltre BOS R11 P2

3B Edwin Encarnacion TOR R22 P14

OF Adam Jones BAL R7 P2

OF Julio Borbon TEX R10 P14

OF Ryan Ludwick STL R14 P14

OF Vernon Wells TOR R15 P2

OF Conor Jackson ARI R19 P2

OF Luke Scott BAL R25 P2

OF Rick Ankiel KC R27 P2

OF Allen Craig STL R30 P14

SP Roy Halladay PHI R2 P14

SP Clayton Kershaw LA R6 P14

SP John Danks CHW R12 P14

SP Carlos Zambrano CHC R13 P2

SP Ryan Rowland-Smith SEA R18 P14

SP Kevin Correia SD R20 P14

SP Kenshin Kawakami ATL R23 P2

SP Paul Maholm PIT R24 P14

RP Jonathan Broxton LA R5 P2

RP Andrew Bailey OAK R9 P2

RP Luke Gregerson SD R26 P14

RP Jason Motte STL R29 P2

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:50 am

Originally posted by Joe Sambito:

Ash, I didn't think Clement was C eigible?

he's not. only 1b

Joe Sambito · Post by **Joe Sambito** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:51 am

Eli's might be the team I like the best. Who's idea was it to punt 3rd base?

In all seriousness, solid squad.

Gekko · Post by **Gekko** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:52 am

all these teams in the same league???

someone just email me the draft grid ([email protected]) and i'll look at all the teams!

EliGrimmett · Post by **EliGrimmett** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:58 am

Yeah, 3rd Base was a big problem for us. And I'm always thinking to myself, "Man, if only I didn't draft that lame closer I could have had a real 3rd Baseman!"

Thanks for the comments.

JAGUAR · Post by **JAGUAR** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:37 am

VERY COOL YOU GUYS POSTING. MY FRIEND WAS ALSO IN THE SAME DRAFT . HE PICKED 8TH WE JUST SPENT 2 HOURS GOING OVER THIS DRAFT . NOT SO BAD WE DID IT AT HOOTERS . THE NEW MIDRIFF TOPS THEY HAVE ON NOW ARE SWEET . HIS TEAM IS TO WEEK AT SP ALSO . SOMEONE MUST HAVE A SUPER TEAM AFTER LOOKING AT THIS MESS THAT YOU GUYS PICKED . I PICK ONE TONIGHT . I SHOULD DO BETTER , BUT ITS EASY TO SAY THAT NOW .

Schwks · Post by **Schwks** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:47 am

I like Eli's team best of the three also. That and $2.25 will get you on the subway.

JAGUAR · Post by **JAGUAR** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:56 am

TO SAY THAT ELI TEAM IS THE BEST . WOW TO MANY JUDYS WITH OUT ANY PUNCH . INGE AND ROLAN AT 3 RD BASE . COME ON MAN . SOME NICE SLEEPERS AT SP THOUGH . A LITTLE WEAK AT INFIELD ON THE WHOLE .

JAGUAR · Post by **JAGUAR** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:59 am

HEY WHAT DO I KNOW . JUST THAT I STAYED AT A HOLLIDAY INN EXPRESS LAST NIGHT . I THINK I GOT SMARTER . HA HA

Ryan C · Post by **Ryan C** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:06 am

Lots of new blood here - that's always nice to see - you guys should have fun battling it out.

I like Eli's the best as well - the pitching is easily the best of the bunch. Actually - I think you drafted more pitching than you need. His is the only staff I really like past the #3 starter - (although Price is fine as a #4- I just don't want him this year).

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