When Should FAAB Deadline Be?

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Mon Feb 16, 2004 3:35 pm

We are trying to determine when would be the best deadline for our Free Agent Acquisition Budget (FAAB) bids during the NFBC season. I had originally proposed Monday morning, but I'm now convinced that would make it tough on many owners who don't have access to a computer to learn about their league's bids and/or have time to enter those free agents into their starting lineups for that week. And I'm also convinced that prior to Sunday is too early.

I'm open for suggestions, but right now I'm seeking a consensus on Sunday, unless I'm convinced otherwise. My question to the NFBC owners is this: "What time on Sunday would you like the FAAB deadline to be?" Please post your answers here.

Then I would like to ask: "What time and day would you like your starting lineups to be finalized?" Let's say that any time between the FAAB deadline on Sunday and Monday at 1 p.m. is acceptable as we've already determined that three Mondays have afternoon games this year. Thanks for your help as you're helping to shape the NFBC.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Mon Feb 16, 2004 3:45 pm

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

"What time on Sunday would you like the FAAB deadline to be?" Please post your answers here. 8pm Sunday

Originally posted by Greg Ambrosius:

"What time and day would you like your starting lineups to be finalized?" Let's say that any time between the FAAB deadline on Sunday and Monday at 1 p.m.Noon on Monday. That way if anyone has any sob stories about the website not taking their line-up, etc..., they still have some time before the games start to get in contact with you or someone at STATS.

SoonerC · Post by **SoonerC** » Mon Feb 16, 2004 4:09 pm

I would say 6:00 PM on Sunday as a free agent pickup deadline and noon on Monday for lineups. Really anytime on Sunday will work because I would think most people will have their bids in long before they are due anyway, but the key is to have some time Sunday evening to digest who you get and set your lineup for the following week. Just my humble opinion.

chi town here we come · Post by **chi town here we come** » Mon Feb 16, 2004 4:36 pm

8 pm sunday on fa and i like the noon for lineups....

Jon_Ashton · Post by **Jon_Ashton** » Mon Feb 16, 2004 6:49 pm

I'd vote for 7 p.m. CST on Sundays for free agent bids/acquisitions to be in. (Probably anywhere from 5p.m. to 8 p.m. would be fine, as well.)

Deadline for Monday lineups, I'd say probably 11:00 a.m. CST. Good to make it early enough that it can remain the same time always to avoid possible confusion by moving it up any week there is an early afternoon Monday game (particularly since there likely will be early Monday afternoon makeup games added to the schedule without a lot of notice, perhaps, besides the 3 weeks we already know of).

viper · Post by **viper** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 12:10 am

Lineups by noon EST on Monday's seems to be good for all situations except for that lone Boston game on Patriots Day. I'd even let it be at noon on that day as 2 innings prior to the deadline really should not make a difference.

Free Agents are tougher. I would say that if the newly acquired player is in your team's roster by 9pm EST on Sunday, all should be fine. I would then back up the time that bids must be made by whatever is necessary to make the 9pm time work. My guess is that is will take a couple of hours to process eveything but maybe not. My guess is that the conditional bid process will make player bids a bit more complicated to process and resolve.

Dyv · Post by **Dyv** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 2:04 am

Greg, if you work with everyone's suggestions here and pick timeframes somewhere in the ballpark of Sunday evening and set lineups by Monday noon - just also offer the ability for people who will be away to email you conditional lineup submissions. (i.e. email to you directly with a not saying 'My lineup is set for the week with Miguel Cairo at 2b... but if I can pick up Roy Halladay which I submitted to FA then I'll be dropping Cairo and I want to put in Soriano at 2b instead')

If you would simply allow that emergency lineup conditional then I think we've taken care of as many issues as possible. If someone is away for a weekend, they can plot out their base strategy and email it in.

Fair enough?

D

Plymouth · Post by **Plymouth** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 2:21 am

Greg,

On the free agent pick-ups, will we be notified in some way (i.e E-Bay bidding) when someone bids more for a FA then we have so we can submit another bid or is this a one time bid thing each week?

As for your question, I would like to know by 8:00 PM CST on Sunday who my new FA is and I can see having the next weeks lineups in by 11:00 AM CST. Thanks for asking.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 2:27 am

Nope. It is a one-time blind bid. You bid $400 for Dontrelle Willis and hope you get him. Good luck and bid well.

LB Big Richards · Post by **LB Big Richards** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 6:16 am

The Sun/Mon deadlines work fine for me. It really doesn't matter to me if the FA deadline is 10 am or 10 pm Sun. Just as long as it's not on Thu

Mon at noon est should be OK for lineups.

a · Post by a » Tue Feb 17, 2004 7:30 am

I'll go against the grain here. I think at least 24-36 hours (prefer 48 hours) are needed between WW and lineups due.

1- give us time to evaluate to the players we won.

2- to make sure we have more than enough time to get to our PCs. Sunday night is a big business travel night (and asking a client to take a break to submit lineups Monday morning isn't the best thing to do).

3- Time to deal with unexpected occurances (power's down, storms, internet connectivity, health).

This is for alot of money and giving us enough time to set our lineups should be taken into consideration. Not everyone here is an ESPN streamer (though I am, and I hate it), or lives on the computer (I am that too). But I think time is very important here for roster submissions.

For the most part, I believe most of us will be reloading our browsers wating for WW to update and we will get our lineups in right away, but you have to take into account that not everyone has the ability to do that.

Justing adding some common sense into the arguements.

Leaderboard Sports · Post by **Leaderboard Sports** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 7:49 am

I'm all for the 8pm Sunday waiver claims and the noon Monday roster moves.

I would hate to see Saturday or Sunday's games played after waiver claims. There are simply too many games played on the weekends. There will be injuries every weekend and it is darn near impossible to cover every starting position with a six man bench.

I don't think too many people in this high stakes game are casual Fantasy Gamers. If you don't check boxscores, injury reports, and news bytes daily you're not going to win anyway.

Dominic · Post by **Dominic** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 8:45 am

I'm hip to the 8 pm/Noon option.

BB of the Leaderboard · Post by **BB of the Leaderboard** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:37 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

8pm Sunday

Noon on Monday. I am with the lizard et al. on this one.

BB

Bama · Post by **Bama** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:49 am

I have to agree that more time is needed between pickups and setting lineups for people traveling on buisness etc.for the weekend, holidays etc. i

a · Post by a » Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:56 pm

Originally posted by KLN:

I have to agree that more time is needed between pickups and setting lineups for people traveling on buisness etc.for the weekend, holidays etc. i You needed to say that you agreed with Vega$, I just need some love on these boards

[ February 17, 2004, 07:57 PM: Message edited by: Vega$ Gambler$ ]

chimpat · Post by **chimpat** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 2:17 pm

I like the Sunday evening times for bid results and lineups by Monday at noon sounds good to me also.

Bama · Post by **Bama** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 2:40 pm

Sorry Vegas, thought i had that in there. i know im going to be gone on memorial day from sat to wed without computer access so im probably going to get screwed that weekend for sure with a sun mon deal, hopefully wont cost me.

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 3:02 pm

Originally posted by KLN:

i know im going to be gone on memorial day from sat to wed without computer access so im probably going to get screwed that weekend for sure with a sun mon deal, hopefully wont cost me. Why would you get screwed? You can still input your bids and line-up before leaving.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 3:31 pm

Please remember that all FAAB bids and roster moves can be done through STATS' 800-number as well as online. For someone who would not have access to a computer over any weekend, a simple phone call would work. No matter what decision we make on the time of the free agent bids, a person can make their blind bids early in the week or right at the deadline and via phone or via online. Then there are other ways you can find out whether you got that free agent or not and whether you need to enter him into your starting lineup or not (the phone again).

As for the deadline for entering starting lineups, I think a Monday noon CST deadline is gaining the consensus. Now we just need to determine what time on Sunday the FAAB bids need to be in.

[ February 17, 2004, 09:33 PM: Message edited by: Greg Ambrosius ]

a · Post by a » Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:08 am

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko:

quote:Originally posted by KLN:

i know im going to be gone on memorial day from sat to wed without computer access so im probably going to get screwed that weekend for sure with a sun mon deal, hopefully wont cost me. Why would you get screwed? You can still input your bids and line-up before leaving.

[/QUOTE]Gordon, you just proved my point..... Yes, we can put in bids at anytime... but we can't input a lineup at anytime if we get new players. It has to be done during the (proposed) short time being requested.

a · Post by a » Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:11 am

Greg, just for clarification, for lineups, you are stating noon CST (1:00 EST). If I recall correctly, there are games that start 12:30 EST. Just to cover our bases, noon EST may work a little better.

Greg Ambrosius · Post by **Greg Ambrosius** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:20 am

I do not believe there are any Monday 12:30 EST games, other than the Patriot Day game, but I'll check again. We had two Cubs games at 2:05 EST and a 4:05 EST September game. If I'm wrong, we'll keep adjusting as the Ten Commandments for the NFBC have yet to be carved in stone. By the way, Iola, WI is still in the stone age!

Gordon Gekko · Post by **Gordon Gekko** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 5:03 am

Originally posted by Vega$ Gambler$:

Gordon, you just proved my point..... Yes, we can put in bids at anytime... but we can't input a lineup at anytime if we get new players. It has to be done during the (proposed) short time being requested. [/QB]You can't input where you want the FA to go to(active or reserve)? If you can, let's start thinking ahead.

a · Post by a » Wed Feb 18, 2004 5:34 am

FA opickups all go to the bench, you need to change your lineup after WW. That's b/c of all the FA bids and conditional picks. This isn't like ESPN where you give assignments when you p/u a player. That's why I keep stating more time is needed between WW and starting lineups. If we were able to do assignments when we do WW, thta would be a different story.